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  •  13-06-2008, 2:21 AM 291588

    NRL VS SL

    IMO THE NRL IS THE BETTER COMP.THE ONLY REASON THE AUSSIE PLAYERS ARE GOING TO SL IS FOR THE CASH,THATS IT!LONG LIVE THE NRL
  •  14-06-2008, 6:30 AM 292256 in reply to 291588

    Re: NRL VS SL

    nice one...anything else you want to get off your chest ?
  •  16-06-2008, 8:54 AM 293832 in reply to 291588

    Re: NRL VS SL

    TIM FURNER:
    IMO THE NRL IS THE BETTER COMP.THE ONLY REASON THE AUSSIE PLAYERS ARE GOING TO SL IS FOR THE CASH,THATS IT!LONG LIVE THE NRL

    Not from what I have seen, many Aussie players are going over for the challenge, its a completely different style of play to the NRL, one which I think many countries are adopting. You now have Australian players such as barrett and rumours are King wanting to leave because they are starting to find the ESL tough and the money in the NRL getting on par and so taking the easy option and going back.

    If there is a retirement fund in RL at the moment its the Elite 1 with many aussies and poms going there for A. the lifestyle and B. the perks as there is no salary cap.

    Personally from all I have seen over the years, most NRL players would struggle in the ESL. Only the top of the top can make it.


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  •  18-06-2008, 1:16 AM 294647 in reply to 293832

    Re: NRL VS SL

    barrett is comeing back cause he's wife is homesick and pregnet,

     barrett was probly the best player in the super league last yr but i dont thing he was in the top 5 in the nrl so i think the super league still has are bit to do to catch up

     i dont no how you could say only the top of the top players can make it in the super league when you see brent webb and scott donald killin it for leeds i dont think they were the top of the top that have come out of the nrl

    dont get me wrong i'm all for the super league but i think it's still got are bit to do b4 being up there with the nrl specialy the crowds for some of the teams and there stadiums.

  •  02-07-2008, 11:17 AM 301295 in reply to 293832

    Re: NRL VS SL

    The only way to answer this question is to have rep team from both comps play each other. Super league Vs NRL. Prob wont ever hapern but what u guys recon?
  •  04-07-2008, 12:05 PM 302209 in reply to 301295

    Re: NRL VS SL

    Well isn't that what the world cup is really, it is the best from both leages.

    Oh, sorry the SL is full of Aussie players making them look good........

  •  06-07-2008, 2:59 AM 302965 in reply to 301295

    Re: NRL VS SL

    I think that would be fantastic - the best talent in the world on show - what a spectacle.....

     

    Put you best teams together, see how they stack up - I will do an NRL one now - I don't watch a lot of Super League

    1. Billy Slater  2. Israel Folau  3. Mark Gasnier  4. Justin Hodges  5. Greg Inglis  6. Darren Lockyer  7. Johnathon Thurston  8. Petro Civonecieva  9. Cam Smith  10. Steve Price  11. Sonny Bill Williams  12. Ryan Hoffman  13. Greg Bird        14. Kurt Gidley 15. Willie Mason 15. Roy Asotasi (in best form) 16. Mick Crocker

     

    If anyone can make a Super League team to get anywhere near that, I will concede that it's a better league.

  •  06-07-2008, 2:45 PM 303068 in reply to 301295

    Re: NRL VS SL

    byrne86:
    The only way to answer this question is to have rep team from both comps play each other. Super league Vs NRL. Prob wont ever hapern but what u guys recon?

     Um... Wold Club Challenge... the two best teams from either comp battle it out.


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  •  06-07-2008, 5:18 PM 303124 in reply to 294647

    Re: NRL VS SL

    dogz08:

    dont get me wrong i'm all for the super league but i think it's still got are bit to do b4 being up there with the nrl specialy the crowds for some of the teams and there stadiums.

    This interesting annalysis done by Dally over on the TRL forum

    Dallymessenger:
    NRL :

    with 15 games played by most clubs (2 byes), the cumulative attack / defence is 10,074.
    average per game is 42 points per NRL game.

    Best Attack in the competition : Manly 25 per game
    Best defence in the competition : manly 13 per game

    Worst attack in the competition : Souths 16 per game
    Worst defence in the competition : warriors 29 per game.
     
    Dallymessenger:
    ESL : including the current round just finished :

    Average points per game : 48 points.

    Best attack - saints - 34 points per game
    Best defence - leeds - 15 pts per game

    Worst attack - Hull KR 19 pts per game
    Worst defence - Cas 32 pts per game
     
    Dallymessenger:
     
    Comparison :

    Difference in total points per game - 6 points per game.

    Looking at the best defensive sides in each competition, there is little difference in the averages, with 2 points being the margin

    Looking at the best attacking sides in each competition, the SL club has a much higher average than the nrl club by 9 points

    Looking at the worst defending sides, its fairly similar in either competition.

    Looking at the worst attacking sides, the SL side is slightly ahead.

    On this comparison SL fares very favourable to the nrl

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  •  07-07-2008, 6:47 AM 303344 in reply to 303124

    Re: NRL VS SL

    a comp between the two comps would be good

     

    the world club challenge is a waste of time the nrl players are not in form.

     

    we need an nrl team V SL team

     

    then we could have the best of the nrl thats right sonny bill and roy asotasi with the aussies on the nrl team come on who could stop the NRL team

     

     

    oh and the nrl need to act fast about our tallent going over seas

  •  08-07-2008, 8:32 AM 303777 in reply to 303344

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    benny008:

    a comp between the two comps would be good

    They tried that in the super leage year... was a resolute failure. Low crowds and teams not really interested in traveling OS through the year particularly with a full schedual at home

    benny08:
     

    the world club challenge is a waste of time the nrl players are not in form.

    Rubbish... the ESL players are just as unfit if not more, they have only had a couple of games under the belt same as the NRL players. Remember England in winter is pretty harsh, the players dont; do their trining through the off season like the NRL do, its their winter not summer they can't go trin in the snow and on rock hard grounds. During the game the conditions are tough for both teams neither team is used to playing in such conditions... and as far as I am concerned if the aussie teams want to call themselves the best then they need to deal with the toughest crowds in the world which IMO are the english. I think its extremely good exposuer for the aussie teams to go over to the UK. I don't understand us anti-podians attitude towards these games... the sport will never thrive with those attitudes. Besides at least the fans will coime out for this game and the two federations can make a bit of money off it... last one was anout 2 million pounds if my memory is correct.

    benny08:
     

    we need an nrl team V SL team

    Its called GB vs. Australia vs. NZ... or as I said previous the World club challenge 

    benny08:

    then we could have the best of the nrl thats right sonny bill and roy asotasi with the aussies on the nrl team come on who could stop the NRL team

     The best of the NRL is the team that wins it... if sonny bill can help the team win then how is he the best. Again as far as I am concerned, who ever wins the comp IS the best. Have those two teams fight it out... at most I would also drag in the Challenge cup winners... and if Australia still had their knockout comp would have had those winners come in.

    benny08:

    oh and the nrl need to act fast about our tallent going over seas

    Again I am miffed by peoples attiude on this. I think its great there is cross polination between the 4 countries. Each country produces players and styles of play that are very differnt and having all these on display is great. I say have more. No other sport in the world tries to keep itself so insular like rugby league... you dont see anyone in soccer calling for a Brazilian team to be made up of only locals... no way you want them to be on the best stage so they can perform the best. With the likes of Barrett coming back expect completely different plays to come from him just what he has learnt in the UK. He'll be a much more free attcking player I suspect. The NRL cross polinations has brought in more emphasis on defence into the ESL. The french with their few NRL and ESL players are finally finding out what it means to approach games professionally. Catalans are showing that and france last year and for at least the 1st half this year showed that they too have made massive leaps and bounds from where they were 4 years ago... I truly believe we are seeing the next golden age of french rugby league and International rugby leage, Ala 1951-63. Benny I am assuming you never saw the utter crap that was in both codes in the early 80's whet there was an effective ban on players travelling across seas... the game went down and you just got defensive battles in the grounds, low scoring games, teams effectively took up Wazzaball. When the ban was lifted and you had the likes of Martin "Charriots" Offiah come in it was amazing! It was a breath of fresh air, all of a sudden teams were back playing attacking football throwing the ball around and it was exciting to watch RL again.

    And this stupid rule that Oz have of only selecting NRL players... I think Australia has been very lucky in the last few years to win the way it has, as many of the best players were overseas... England were always intimidated, but not this time round... the other weekend showed that England are out to settle 30 years worth of scores and are going all out to do it... and I am going to relish the battle. This year I think Australia will be shown that its insular ideas on international rugby league are hindering it.


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  •  10-07-2008, 10:53 AM 304400 in reply to 303777

    Re: NRL VS SL

    They have the quality super league, they just dont have the quantity, this will come with more teams and a bit more time, another 5 to 10 years they should be level pegging with the nrl. Be some good test matches then? France will also have a bit more player talent hopefully.
  •  10-07-2008, 11:26 AM 304406 in reply to 304400

    Re: NRL VS SL

    oikee2:
    They have the quality super league, they just dont have the quantity, this will come with more teams and a bit more time, another 5 to 10 years they should be level pegging with the nrl. Be some good test matches then? France will also have a bit more player talent hopefully.

    Oikee I disagree... the quality and quantity is there in NL1 its just that SL clubs are scared to give these guys a run at the momnet... the tems that do are the ones that do well.


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  •  13-07-2008, 5:55 AM 305280 in reply to 303777

    Re: NRL VS SL

    Druzik:
    benny008:

    a comp between the two comps would be good

    They tried that in the super leage year... was a resolute failure. Low crowds and teams not really interested in traveling OS through the year particularly with a full schedual at home

    benny08:
     

    the world club challenge is a waste of time the nrl players are not in form.

    Rubbish... the ESL players are just as unfit if not more, they have only had a couple of games under the belt same as the NRL players. Remember England in winter is pretty harsh, the players dont; do their trining through the off season like the NRL do, its their winter not summer they can't go trin in the snow and on rock hard grounds. During the game the conditions are tough for both teams neither team is used to playing in such conditions... and as far as I am concerned if the aussie teams want to call themselves the best then they need to deal with the toughest crowds in the world which IMO are the english. I think its extremely good exposuer for the aussie teams to go over to the UK. I don't understand us anti-podians attitude towards these games... the sport will never thrive with those attitudes. Besides at least the fans will coime out for this game and the two federations can make a bit of money off it... last one was anout 2 million pounds if my memory is correct.

    benny08:
     

    we need an nrl team V SL team

    Its called GB vs. Australia vs. NZ... or as I said previous the World club challenge 

    benny08:

    then we could have the best of the nrl thats right sonny bill and roy asotasi with the aussies on the nrl team come on who could stop the NRL team

     The best of the NRL is the team that wins it... if sonny bill can help the team win then how is he the best. Again as far as I am concerned, who ever wins the comp IS the best. Have those two teams fight it out... at most I would also drag in the Challenge cup winners... and if Australia still had their knockout comp would have had those winners come in.

    benny08:

    oh and the nrl need to act fast about our tallent going over seas

    Again I am miffed by peoples attiude on this. I think its great there is cross polination between the 4 countries. Each country produces players and styles of play that are very differnt and having all these on display is great. I say have more. No other sport in the world tries to keep itself so insular like rugby league... you dont see anyone in soccer calling for a Brazilian team to be made up of only locals... no way you want them to be on the best stage so they can perform the best. With the likes of Barrett coming back expect completely different plays to come from him just what he has learnt in the UK. He'll be a much more free attcking player I suspect. The NRL cross polinations has brought in more emphasis on defence into the ESL. The french with their few NRL and ESL players are finally finding out what it means to approach games professionally. Catalans are showing that and france last year and for at least the 1st half this year showed that they too have made massive leaps and bounds from where they were 4 years ago... I truly believe we are seeing the next golden age of french rugby league and International rugby leage, Ala 1951-63. Benny I am assuming you never saw the utter crap that was in both codes in the early 80's whet there was an effective ban on players travelling across seas... the game went down and you just got defensive battles in the grounds, low scoring games, teams effectively took up Wazzaball. When the ban was lifted and you had the likes of Martin "Charriots" Offiah come in it was amazing! It was a breath of fresh air, all of a sudden teams were back playing attacking football throwing the ball around and it was exciting to watch RL again.

    And this stupid rule that Oz have of only selecting NRL players... I think Australia has been very lucky in the last few years to win the way it has, as many of the best players were overseas... England were always intimidated, but not this time round... the other weekend showed that England are out to settle 30 years worth of scores and are going all out to do it... and I am going to relish the battle. This year I think Australia will be shown that its insular ideas on international rugby league are hindering it.

     

    Druzik,

     

    The aussie teams are just breaking into pre season games, where as, correct me if I'm wrong, Super Leagues competition proper has already started at WCC time...???...Logic will tell you the ESL teams are a little better prepared.......I would still love to see an all star game..........I don't agree that the two comp winners give you the best players on display, it gives you the best teams, not nessecairily the best players........and playing in England heavily favours the ESL sides, as it would heavily favour the NRL sides were it played in Australia

  •  23-07-2008, 2:02 AM 310450 in reply to 305280

    Re: NRL VS SL

    Watching both comps i would have to say both leagues have no problems scoring but the defence in the nrl is superior. Another thing u poms are good at is one on one stripping of the ball. You guys do that so many times where here in oz you are lucky to see it at least once a game. I must say i am really excited about this years world cup. I think i am more interested in the poolb, and c games than the super group. Really keen to see france play with a bit more power than in recent years.
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