Just watching the game tonight. England are woeful. 10 nil down already. No make that 16nil as I write this. They are playing their worst footy again. I hope for the fans sake they can come back, So far they look embarrasing.

Well its now 1/2 time and the English have struck back! We have a game. 16-10 at the break. If the poms can rid themselves of the albatross around their neck they could win. Good to see the English fans again, in full song. Enjoying the Brisie weather and beer!

 Thats it 32-22 New Zealand.

England, flashes of brilliance mixed with utter shite play. You can blame the ref for some bad calls, but he didnt kick the ball out on the full or throw wild passes to no one.

Good on New Zealand they played much better than last week and will be a danger in the final.

England need to rid themselves of the rubbish that is st helens players! Leon Price touted as one of the best players on the planet! I don' think so Ade Gardiner couldn't catch cold, Wellens not even able to hold onto the ball? Come on Tony Smith there were better players left at home than these 3 will ever be!

well said! who do you think missed out but should have been there

players such as paul sykes, shaun briscoe, mcarthy scarsbrook, players who have done it for there clubs week in week and week out players who have heart!

i think peter fox was unfortuate to miss out

i agree, another good player, another ex rhino too lol, scored some good tries last season, 12-13 i think, and put a good showing in against the welsh at donny. Very unlucky

 I feel sorry for the English side they seem undercooked, like they are not used to playing together or are playing out of position. When they had a decision to make it was like they needed to think about it for a few seconds. They are too good a side to have to ad-lib gameplay. When they did they threw balls to no one, or dropped basic catches. Kept falling for 2nd man ball runners, maybe the climate was too much for them?  A few mistakes can turn a game but to play 20 full minutes like that is the stuff of amateurs. Its a shame really the England or Great Britain of old would give you a hell of a game.

Well it certainly wasn't down to lack of preperation. England just didn't turn up to the tournament, with 8 rhinos plyers (world club champions ) and 7 st helens players (best super league side for the past 3-4 years) England should have given the aussies a game at the very least! and beaten new zealand easily! Instead they made error after error after error. As a Proud Englishman it wasn't nice to watch!

Mikster u sure its not prikster? Y just the Saints players i agree they were shat but so were the leeds an wigan an warrinton players only really purdham who dun himself justice! Take off ur specs an watch the whole game an team an then judge on wat u c an u will sound less desperate 2 knock the players of a certin team ok mate? U understand wat im saying kid? Eh?

Right boys it the basics the basics i tell u thats y we were so so so bad ok i'l explain. Mik u listening at the back? On the last akle the ball sud get punted into the corner right? Wat does the whine Mcguire do knock on? BASICS! From dummy half u want a nice crisp pass on numerous occasions wat does Robey do pass it across the floor! BASICS! In defence u number up an tackle the man in front of u who u nominate is ur man wat do our silly boys do all rush infield leaving the kiwis in miles of space! BASICS U ALL SEEING WAT I MEAN NOW BOYS SURELY U GET IT NOW MIKSTER ITS NOT ST HELENS WHO LET QUEEN AND CONTRY DOWN ITS THE WHOLE TEAM AQN ESPECIALLY THE COACH OK MIK?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Basically wat im sayin is that it is the BASICS wat let us down kid!